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lyric00

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« on: May 13, 1999, 03:00:00 am »
I was wondering what is good town/city where interracial relationships are kinda accepted.I mean I know IR couples will always have problems where ever they go but I\'m looking to relocate some time soon. I was wondering where should I start to look.  Also, I just got out of relationship and I was wondering where a good place to meet interesting white men also.  Just let me know...I grew up in New Mexico and that was ok but I want to get aways from there.  

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« Reply #1 on: May 14, 1999, 03:00:00 am »
Hi Lyric,     Read your post and I\'d say go to a big metropolitan area in the country. You will probably meet people with diverse backgrounds and interests.  Probably nowhere will 100% accept interacial relationships. But why limit yourself to white men? There are many Black men who are just as interesting, if not more. Not to sound mean, but do you have something against meeting Black men? Sounds like you\'d be selling yourself short. We don\'t bite, Lyric! LOL  (well, some might! LOL)    I think by setting yourself up to meet only white guys could open yourself to those who could care less about you as well as the next lady. Just focus on yourself and be the best you can be. If you\'re meant to be with a white guy then it will just happen. By forcing it could cause problems for you later.    What do you think?    

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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 1999, 03:00:00 am »
Lyric, if you want to find an area that is very comfortable with regards to IR, California is the place to be, specifically the Bay Area.  Even Sacramento, where i live, just had an article in the paper recently, discussing how many mixed race children they have here (quite a few more than most people might think).I\'ve never had any problems in this area, and you will find that most people here don\'t even give IR a second look, they\'re so common.Good luck in your search!Mofete

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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 1999, 03:00:00 am »
I figured california but it\'s so expensive there. That is great that it\'s not so limited there.  I\'m kinda thinking some where East but i\'m not sure becasue i\'ve only been to VA once and Philly once, those area i wonder about. Thanks MofeteOh Canonet, i really don\'t think that i\'m limiting myself at all for the fact i\'m intrested in white men.  If i\'m happy with them then i don\'t see it as limiting myself.  I don\'t have anything against black men at all.  I have black men for friends and they\'re many good looking black men. I\'m not putting them down or anything like that by being interested in white men.  Oh, I don\'t think i\'m setting myself up for anything except meeting new people.  I would never let a white man, black man or any man disrespect me.  Thanks though for advice on where to look, but do you have any cities that you would suggest.  

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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 1999, 03:00:00 am »
lyricThe way you stated that you want to meet interesting White men gives off the impression that you only want to date them.  I think that\'s where folks are getting the impression that you\'re limiting yourself.If you come east, I can tell you that the New England area, including Boston, is not a good place.  In Boston, the segregation is bad enough, but many folks here also have segregated mindsets.  It\'s one of the main reasons I\'m ready to leave this area after living here the first nearly 23 years of my life (though I\'ll be here for a few more years before that happens).If you want to come east, New England isn\'t the spot... and I\'ve heard that Philadelphia is about as segregated as Boston, which has cooled my desire to possibly settle there.

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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 1999, 03:00:00 am »
GloryI think anyone who thought Lyric was looking to exclusively date White men had a basis for that.  Maybe it was bad expression on her part, but I can see why someone thought that was the case from what Lyric said.I wish I could share your optimism about interracial relationships and their effect on racism.  Personally, I\'m puzzled by many discussions on this topic these days, mainly because so many talk about them as though they\'re proof that we as a society have turned the corner regarding race.  I just don\'t see it.  I\'ve known plenty of people in IR relationships who are racist, including a guy who was a friend of mine during my high school days (this isn\'t the only reason we grew apart).  Furthermore, my school (Northeastern) has more racial problems than some would lead you to believe, and NU\'s supposed to be better as far as this is concerned than other Boston schools.  (That only speaks to how bad BC and BU must be.)Intuitively, I don\'t think racism will ever leave us.  But I do believe in God, so I hold out hope that it can happen, and it\'s why I\'ve tried to do my part here the last 5 years and will continue to do so for as long as I live.

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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 1999, 03:00:00 am »
HI Lyric     Thank you for your reply. The only thing I was simply saying was you made a statement and could not explain it. If so, then it must make no sense to you if you can\'t elaborate. Then why say it? If you like white guys, then there must be a reason. Example, if people like a certain food it\'s because of the taste. A certain car because they\'ve had great service from the brand in the past. No one likes something \'just because\' Lyric. I like photography, printing and processing black and white (hence the username), because I like the emotions photographs bring out of people. It\'s truly an art when master it. Especially the printing end of it. Pictures are TRULY worth a thousand words.      When people make choices, there\'s usually a reason. When people break up in relationships, it\'s not \'just because\', there\'s a reason. See my point? If you do not know why you do or like someone/something,  then why do it? I have no personal beef against you, Lyric, but be able to explain yourself when you make statements such as yours in a public forum if asked. If I\'ve angered you, I\'m sorry but I bet you\'ve had few to ask why you do something. You;re an adult so there\'s a reason behind what you do.   About IRs in my area? They\'re slowly picking up here. Mostly white men  with asian women but BM/WW and BW/WM numbers are rising. I would not choose my area because housing costs are rising and wages are not keeping up. I\'m in the RTP area in North Carolina. Mostly here, its Black people looking for white mates insead of whites looking for black mates.  

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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 1999, 03:00:00 am »
First of all I want to say thank you Glory...I wish I could of said that but you came to help, so thanks.  Canonet, you didn\'t upset me or make me mad or anything.  I just felt that you were trying to get me to say something that I didn\'t believe.  I\'m not going to say that or change my views.  I do look at all me and there are good looking men in all cultures.  Just because I have a preference doesn\'t mean that there are not good looking men every where. You also said that you prefered black women so I don\'t really see the difference in you saying it or me saying it. I\'m not questioning your reasons because that\'s what you like and that\'s fine that white women don\'t interest you.  But that\'s you and I hope that you\'re always happy with however you are with.Jonathon, I\'ve heard about Vancouver BC.  I\'ve wanted to go visit there for a long time.  I\'ve heard it\'s beautiful and the people there are really nice and all. Yvonne, I do want to find a good job but if I\'m not happy there then that will run me away.  That\'s so funny about Ohio though because I\'ve heard that, that\'s like the interracial capitol.  thanks guys...and thanks again gloria

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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 1999, 03:00:00 am »
Hi Lyric   Read some of your posts here and wondering  when you relocate what if you met an attractive Black guy who was quite much in all you wanted in a man? Would you exclude him because he\'s black because of your preference in only white men? That would not be too kind plus you would be limting yourself when you declared you\'re not doing so. Why not concentrate on getting a decent job  after college. instead of chasing down men for relationships. A place where you may seek an IR might not have the job you want.        I have met some sisters who will have  thought a Black man may be kind to them and what they want but because not white, they\'re not good enough for them. I hope you are not doing that when you say \'I only have a preference of white men only.\'  What do you think, Lyric?  Please say morethan \'because I want to\" .That\'s a weak reason

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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 1999, 03:00:00 am »
geez, why do some of y\'all think everyone who dates IR has to come up with a \"reason\" for their PREFERENCE?  Lyric doesn\'t owe ANYONE a reason for her choice and i say more power to you, sista!  you obviously find white guys pleasing to the eye and i\'m sure there are other \"intangibles\"...i\'m a wf who PREFERS (i.e., exclusively dates) BM for the same reasons as yourself.  i have no hard feelings toward white guys, in fact, i have 3 white sons (along with my brown son) so how could i possibly not like them?Canonet: it really isn\'t necessary to come up with excuses why you don\'t think white women would be interested in you - you would be quite surprised to know there are plenty of white women who would take you seriously and are looking for more than a boy toy.  But the bottom line is YOU HAVE YOUR PREFERENCE and we have ours.  Don\'t take it personally!  when you break it down, we\'re just men and women.

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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 1999, 03:00:00 am »
Lyonel, you know i\'ve never thought about going north or that far north.  It\'s funny that you say Minnisota too becaue I really figured IR would be worse up there. I guess that\'s the south.  Mofete, thanks understaning.  I really don\'t understand why people have to question other poeple either.  If your happy doing what you want and it\'s not doing nothing to me then like you said more power to you.  Canonet, I still don\'t know what you\'re wanting me to say.  I don\'t know if you\'re wanting me to agree with you or say black men are the best men on the earth.  Well, I\'m not agree with you.  I think i\'ve told you that i prefer white men.  I always have and i probably will.  I\'m sorry to tell you this but it\'s because I WANT TO.  I\'m sorry that\'s not good enough for you but that\'s all it comes down too again.  I know many black men that are attractive and are intelligent. I never said a black man isn\'t good enough for me either.  Like Mofete said don\'t take it personal.  I know i\'ve said this MANY times, it\'s not about you or any black man or any other man. It\'s about me and WHAT I WANT.  I\'m not going to think on the same page as you becasue we see things so differently.  Oh, I almost forgot. I ask the question how the interracial scene is other city (where white men aren\'t afraid to talk to black women).  You know I can go anywhere I want, I have that freedom.  I can get a job in almost any region. I want to get a good job just like anyone.  I want to go somewhere I can be happy. I haven\'t been to many areas in the US, so that\'s why I ask how it is in yours.  So you date all the black women you want    and fun while you\'re doing it.  There are so many black women that think there is a \"GOOD BLACK MAN\" shortage.  Well i\'m one less person they don\'t have to worry about.  

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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 1999, 03:00:00 am »
Lyric,   Thanks for your reply. I still hate to tell you but once again you can\'t give a reason for your choices. I asked before about \'walk the walk\' as you said was a reason and you could not explain your own statement. That\'s why I question. It\'s still  the scientist in me, I guess. In my opinion, everyone has a reason on why they do things. No one acts or reacts \'just because...\'. Ladies, and men,  who do not know why they do something are not good to be around with for too long, Lyric. My opinion.Mofete,   Thanks for your reply. I only go on what I observe in my area of the country. In college, many white ladies pursue black guys, ( we do the same) to say we did it or to use each other. I have rarely come across Black men who really cared about white ladies. I know there are some who do but have not met too many ( sports stars do not count. I\'m referring to everyday people).  ladies meet the men, have their fun but very few would consider us as a possible mate. Just my experience, mofete. I gather you\'re in a better relationship where a guy cares about you and your sons. That\'s great. Hope it always lasts for you.

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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 1999, 03:00:00 am »
Okay, my two cents:For starters, a preference does not mean dating exclusively.  If I prefer Black women, it does not mean I exclusively date them or will only date them.  It simply means that I\'ll date anyone, but would like to date a Black woman.That said, my issue on this topic comes when the line is crossed- when it isn\'t a preference any more and is really exclusive dating practice, which is racist by definition since race is a direct factor.The fact is that we\'re all individuals and to judge whether or not someone is a suitable mate based on race simply makes no sense.Lyonel: I must admit to being surprised that you would go to Minnesota if in an IR couple; that\'s one of the last places I\'d go if I was in one!  (Of course, I wouldn\'t want to live there anyway because I hate the cold, and I\'ve had enough of it over my years as a lifelong resident of Chelsea, MA.)

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« Reply #13 on: May 23, 1999, 03:00:00 am »
Canonetthis is getting so old...what i do and who i chose to date has nothing to do with you or anyone. i\'ve said it so many times, it\'s all about me and what I want.  If you think my response to you is childish then call me childish.  I don\'t know if you\'re just wanting me to say...i like white me because i get along better with them.  There is that the reason you\'ve been looking for.  It\'s probably not good enough either but if it\'s not then I\'m sorry.  I\'m really tired of talking about it.  I know many black men and they\'re all friends.  They\'re all good men and intellegent.  I\'m just not interested in black men.  Nothing against them and I\'ve never met a black guy that I\'ve been interested in. I really don\'t like playing the \"what if\" game because if something like that ever happened then I\'d see what was up.  Until then I\'ll just date who I want too, ok.

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« Reply #14 on: May 23, 1999, 03:00:00 am »
LyricDon\'t worry about me taking back what I said.  I meant it.  There is a difference between having a preference and having exclusive dating practices- as in, there\'s a difference between preferring to date a White man and refusing to date anyone who isn\'t White.  And this is regardless of anyone\'s race; if I would only date White women (and refuse to date any woman who isn\'t White) or Black women (and refuse to date any woman who isn\'t Black) it\'s no different.  It\'s still racist either way, because race is playing a role and it shouldn\'t at all.For me, this extends further- as in, I don\'t want to date anyone who will \"only date White guys\".  I would date someone who wants to date me for me, not because I\'m White.