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Bo

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« on: October 17, 2001, 12:58:00 pm »
quote:Originally posted by MzSheel:
 This whole thing reminds me of the 70\'s when I would hear white people slinging around phrases indicating that Blacks were such an \"emotional\" people.... that our reactions were so \"emotional!\"        Well, hell, suffer through injustice, blatant racism, plus a sundry of other inequities... and still be expected to walk around with a grin on your face and be \"better\" than them in order to compete on an \"equal\" playing field\".... it\'s no small wonder we AREN\'T always overly emotional.
Amen!!!
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2001, 04:13:00 pm »
To Canonet,
I said \"OOWB of course\" because such is the statistical reality for young BW.
Marital Status of Women at First Birth by Race..1930-34 to 1990-94
Marital Status of Women at First Birth by Age: 1930-34 to 1990-94

Osiris,
Let me get this...I made a statement that \'the women in my family are self-sufficient enough to only need to stay with men for so long as it satisfy us\'....and from that, you felt justified in calling me a whore? WTF?
Self-sufficency equates to being a whore in your mind?  Or is it just that the idea of  women being able to support and take care of themselves, scares the shyt out of you? After all, if women who are much younger than crusty ass old geezers like YOU, weren\'t financially destitute or needy enough to feel willing to prostitute their youth out for consumption of nasty old perverts, a geriatric old fart like YOU might have had to remain with a woman your own age, instead of salivating after ***** that you are OLD enough to have fathered.
Teelah and I are NOT cut from the same kind of cloth.  When I was 17 and getting cat calls from men old enough to be my father, I was repulsed, not turned on naive enough to allow myself to be used for their ego gratification.  I like men closer to my own age, as that is the way nature intended for it to be.
DP
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2001, 01:22:00 pm »
quote:Originally posted by DianaPrince:
[/B]I think you just made a good case for why so many black folks ARE overly emotional....i.e...they constantly feel STRESSED and on edged (based on some facts of reality as well as their own skewed perceptions).  They constantly measure and interpret contemporary experiences based on negative experiences that they have had personally or read about in the PAST...be it the 1970s or 1870s.  
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Huh!?!  If you can\'t \"measure and interpret\" experiences based on something that happened to you in the past (negative or positive) then what would you use as a measuring stick?  Isn\'t this what most people do--that is to interpret experiences based on their own experiences?
Also, DP, why do you say that blacks are \"overly emotional?\"  This is so subjective.  Emotions can\'t be quantified!!!
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2001, 06:37:00 pm »
quote:Originally posted by Bo:
 Huh!?!  If you can\'t \"measure and interpret\" experiences based on something that happened to you in the past (negative or positive) then what would you use as a measuring stick?  Isn\'t this what most people do--that is to interpret experiences based on their own experiences?
Also, DP, why do you say that blacks are \"overly emotional?\"  This is so subjective.  Emotions can\'t be quantified!!!Bo, its fine to measure and interpret, and develop particualr expectations, based on past experiences.....when you are curently dealing with the SAME person(s) with whom you had those past experiences.
It becomes a sign of being overly emotional, when you start to generalize your past experiences to those who had nothing ot do with them...you know...being irrational.
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2001, 06:42:00 pm »
quote:Originally posted by MzSheel:
 
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That was the point .... that driven to the edge on the regular, ANYONE would be \"emotional\"OK, fine...so why do have so many peeps tryna disagree that so many black folks ARE overly emotional?...Dont people who feel constantly stressed, tend to react overly emotional?....since a state of feeling constantly stressed is not a normal or desirable human conditions?...and one that needs to be cured, if/when it exist?
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2001, 11:15:00 pm »
Mz Heartbeat, just because this is your board does not give you the right to bully me. My first post was very relevant and the subsequent irrelevant ones were only in response to questions others asked of me. What am I to say, that I can not answer your question, go on call me a ** , I will not defend myself?
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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2001, 05:02:00 am »
For a people who have an essence in an environment that is \"alive\" like African culture, emotion is just par for the course. It\'s when it is juxtaposition against that dead european culture would then someone speak of its participants as \"over emotional.\" It is for this reason so many of our children are diagnosed with so-called ADD.
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Osiris

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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2001, 05:21:00 am »
\"only need to stay with men for so long as it satisfy us\'-DP\"
Look you silly little azzhole, these are your words not mine. Since you are \"self sufficient,\" what other reason would you need a \"man\" just as long as it satisfies you except to pluck? Certainly not to share, not with your attitude. Your male energy. Like many young \"women\" today, you have no idea what a real \"woman\" is all about.
And the reason young women may have an attraction for me is because, unlike you, they need a man in their lives and not just to stay for as long as it satisfies them. I may be old in years but you are so closed in your european focus that you have no idea about the \"spirit\" of a person. You can only see in your limited scope the physical and material. You are truly a stupid young *** . I must apologize for others reading this, but as for you, I have no respect. Perhaps when you become a woman,(although you will argue otherwise)you will understand but as of now, you are too busy smelling your armpits and marveling at how wet your little pu**y gets when you see a dyck, you think you got it all together. Your crown is block and the energy flows down, although you can\'t see it now, that\'s truth.  
I\'ll ask my ancestors forgiveness later.
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Osiris

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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2001, 05:41:00 am »
BTW DP, did you get it?
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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2001, 01:33:00 pm »
\"I\'m not remotely interested in fitting YOUR definition of a \"real woman\"...the eternally suffering martyr, who must live a life misery from birth to death, all so that WEAK ass BM like YOU can feel like you still have dominion over someone/something.-DP\"
Hey dumb butt, this is YOUR definition, not mine. And the way you view BM (your view, not mine) really confirms my thinking of you as a \"self-sufficient\" *** . What else can you be given your attitude towards BM? That or a whiteman\'s nigress. I don\'t know which is worst.
Hey, I\'m too old to \"knock up\" a younger woman remember? But just in case, I think I\'m experienced enough to prevent that.
A woman 33-35 can have a child already around 12-13 years old. Just at the age when the child may need someone to help guide them. You see DP, it not about being around when the child is mature, most men aren\'t anyway, it\'s about giving the children something that will sustain them while you are there. Are you one of those idiots who think they will live forever or will forever be young?  One thing about european thinking, which you are inundated with, is trying to control nature. Those MF want to be God by cloning, stem cell techno, etc. Everything without \"spirit.\" Perhaps in my short sojourn with the children, I can leave them with something, even if it\'s only to teach them to vary their reading or think critically.    You are truly an azzhole little one.
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Osiris

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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2001, 02:22:00 pm »
\"yeah, so aren\'t all the multitude of single women your own age attracted to this great spirit of yours? And since you like to consider yourself so in tune with NATURE, do you think that nature intended for women your own age, ya know, like your son\'s mother, to remain alone, while nasty old men like your prey on young women who s/b with a man their own age, building a family of their own.-DP\"
I have to take your idiotic nonsensical diatribe one paragraph at a time. Too full of BS. Anyway little one, women my own age TEND to be christian and have its associated maladies and like you, one being, closed minded. Those who aren\'t, which are rare, I have nothing against dating if the occasion arises. (plus the conversation will probably be better and less taxing on me) On a personal note, my son\'s mother is happy with some dude in N.J., bless her soul. Those that are alone, there must be reasons why and in many cases, I can\'t deal with that reason. Perhaps when they were young, they thought like you, I don\'t know. At any rate, let\'s just say that this great democarcy of yours has presented our culture with an historic sitution that leads to many of our young women having no one in the household to help raise the children. (oh, maybe that\'s just due to some accident or our stupidity or even our association with bin laden), so if the ancestors lead me that way, so be it.  
I like your \"suppose to be\" with men their own age. And little one, who are you to dictate what\'s \"suppose to be?\" Damm you are really closed minded. Hell, girl, we are \"suppose\" to have social and economic parity with white folks too. Here\'s just a verse (I don\'t want you to suffer)
Words that replace
Abandon legitimacy
Leaving room for
Escape
False validity
Words that define
White bullshit
Hypocrisy
Speaking \"should have\"
\"Would have\"
Playing our sympathy
Killing us
Killing time
Knowing well
How their words
Will always justify
european Crime
I could have used \"suppose to have.\"
Here\'s another verse:
Words we must speak
From hearts of
African clans
Words that speak
\"I will\" \"I can\"
Words making us
True
God fearing men
Words that will restore
Confidence pride
Words to help heal
Our people\'s divide
You see, \"I CAN\" be involved with both young and old little one.
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2001, 05:40:00 pm »
quote:Originally posted by RR:
Bo,
So before we jump to conclusions regarding the intent of any individual\'s comments, I think it behooves us to understand the context in which remarks are made and to give the speaker the benefit of the doubt.

RR,
I did exactly what you said above so I\'m not sure what you\'re confused about.  First you said you did not \"understand\" and then you said you \"understood where I was coming from.\" (Huh!)  Maybe you should go back and re-read my post.  I did give the \"speaker the benefit of the doubt.\"
I wanted to know how others would interpret the act and react to it!  
IMO, sometimes whites make condescending remarks like that as an attempt at humor or out of ignorance.  If he assumes that \"all\" blacks speak like that then he was ignorant.  If he assumed that a comment like that would foster some kind of \"connection\" between us and him, then he was mistaken.  If he was just trying to be \"funny\", then he was not very clever (although, not malicious).  Similarly, I would not greet an Italian-American whom I\'d just met with a comment like \"forget about it!\"  This may be offensive to the person or it may not be.  But it would be shallow and ignorant of me to make such a remark.
I would not have necessarily taken a comment like \"jumping the broom\" to be inflamatory.  That is a legitimate African-American tradition.
[This message has been edited by Bo (edited 10-16-2001).]
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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2001, 05:53:00 pm »
You know Bo, I would have been a little annoyed too... when I see white boys with their mullett hair-dos, sitting high up in their pick-ups next to a pastey looking girl named Delight -- I don\'t go asking them how life in their double-wide is or ask them which trailer park they\'re from or where the nearest mudhole is .... all stereotypes ... I know it, they know it (even if it is true).
It\'s just rude and bad manners to make certain assumptions. I make it my business to know enough about their culture so that I don\'t make stupid, off-color remarks.
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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2001, 06:07:00 pm »
quote:Originally posted by Teelah:
Now I am trying to figure out what my having my daughter out of wedlock has to do with anything on this board. I do not see what the big deal about that is anyway...

Teelah,
I agree with Canonet, having a baby out of wedlock is a big deal--or at least should be!  I know this is off topic but I could not let this past.  Becoming a mother is actually one of the most important things that you\'ll ever do in life and caring for a child is (should be) an enormous responsibility.  
It\'s funny to me how you talk about not wanting to marry the child\'s father because you two don\'t get along.  But why is it that you had no problem \"sleeping\" with him if you didn\'t \"get along.\"  Usually I don\'t like being \"around\" most people I don\'t get along with let alone sleeping with them!  And if you couldn\'t see this guy in your future then you should have jetted!  
And my feeling is anytime you engage in sex you should be prepared to be a parent.  Birth control is not to be confused with \"birth prevention.\"  
Now I know you were young when this all took place and I\'m sure you wouldn\'t make the same kind of choices today but I\'m fearful that a lot of teenage girls are out there like you were--making babies with guys when they should be making plans for the rest of their lives!
Please don\'t ever think that being a single-mother is \"not a big deal.\"  It hurts you; it hurts society; but more importantly it hurts the child!
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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2001, 08:12:00 pm »
Teelah,
  You only saw your ex\' on weekends? To me, it appears you had more of a sexmate instead of a real boyfriend. if its someone who really loved you, there would be NO arguments in even a 2-3 day period. He only saw you as piece of arse instead of a woman, Teelah. My apologies fo being candid here but its true. if you can phrase it any better, be my guest.
  You hit the nail on the head about white guys going through their Black phase. They simply become \'white\' again. Many are told about Black women ready for sex 24-7-365. Perhaps they used the charm to get what they want , then move on.
  Yeah, I;m offended by whites who try to be \'down\' with Black folk. I simply call them \'Black experts\'. We have a few floating on this board and they are here because they \'know\' all about us! Dating/sex/marriage of Blacks makes them know the ins and outs of us. Can anybody name one?
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